Saturday, April 3, 2021

Michael Yeadon 3/31interview "I no longer believe anything I hear." How bad could things get? 1 hr


Yvette said...

So his theory is that the spike protein itself may be the cause of the clotting, as a fusogenic protein (at 18m in the recording). I'm wondering why we're only hearing about the problem with the Astrazeneca. If it's because the tracking of side effects is inadequate, then it wouldn't be tracked in the AstraZ either.
Maybe it'a not being seen yet in the mRNA vaccines because not enough younger ppl have received the Pfizer/Moderna yet and the AstraZ is the most rolled out over different age groups?

Meryl Nass, M.D. said...

During the J and J trial, clotting was noticed as the only significant possible adverse event.

The A-Z vaccine issue was picked up because there were a lot of brain clots (cavernous sinus thrmobosis aka venous sinus thrmobosis) in young people and DIC, which virtually never happens. Also there have been rare arterial clots. And the clotting was associated with low platelet counts, which is unusual. The combination was very striking.

Had there been "just" clots or the legs or even pulmonary emboli (which there have been) it might have been written off because these are relative common. Once the problem wa recognized, people looked backwards for other cases.

It appears that in the UK and US the only information provided the public about adverse events following any Covid vaccine comes from self-reports, which by their nature cannot provide a RATE of the adverse event. This has served to put a lid on a quantitative analysis of safety by anyone other than government agencies.

ML said...

I really liked the Michael Yeadon interview except for one strange comment... he does not seem to believe the virus has been isolated as the cause of Covid-19 disease. If he had not said that, it would have been a much more acceptable interview that I would have shared. Still, I really enjoyed it. I guess he’s never seen an electron microscopy photo of the virus or maybe does not believe that those pictures are truthful proof of the virus’ existence? What do you think Meryl?

Meryl Nass, M.D. said...

You know there is a virus. I have previously linked to photomicrographs of it.

This is the problem when we have been lied to about so many things--unless you look very deeply into a subject it is hard to know what to believe. Apparently Yeadon has not looked deeply into this subject.

Since I treated two new patients today for Covid, and many others, there is no doubt in my mind it exists, and causes a very identifiable syndrome.

Yvette said...

Thanks Meryl - you are one of the few people who takes this nuanced approach to sorting through all the confusion. I'm wondering what you think of the Brazil variant? It's starting to spread here in Canada - it does look more serious anecdotally in BC, Canada. It's really beyond me to make sense of all the statistics in different regions with different policies, demographics, climates, etc.

Anonymous said...

@ 30 minutes " Normally when you make a vaccine you have to have some of it—dead virus—to make it. No one has any. No one has an SARS Covid 2 virus…they haven’t isolated the virus?"

I thought China mapped the genome in January of last year--and shared it "with no strings attached"....what does he mean that no one "HAS" any of the (dead) virus?

Why DIDN'T they culture SARS COVID 2 to scale? Yeadon speculates the reason is time...takes too long. But what is he inferring here--why is it important that "they" dont' have any of the virus...? Can you clarify?

Meryl Nass, M.D. said...


The mortality rate is way down. Both total deaths and deaths per case diagnosed. This tells me that the variants, which are scattered all over the US and Canada, and in regions make up the majority of the virus, are not more virulent than the old version.

It would be hard to claim the new variants are "more" infectious, since the old variants were extremely infectious. I think they are a concept that was drummed up to try and instill fear as this pandemic tails off.

There are pockets that never did get hit badly by the virus (I live in one) and we still could see peaks of infection before things peter out. The good news is that Ivermectin works no matter what variant there is.

ML said...

Thanks for your answer, Meryl. Of course, I concur as an NP who has done nothing but research this whole thing from a year ago in January. Lots of retired time on my hands and I’ve enjoyed sharing fruitful info and helping, many people with Covid with ivermectin. All have done beautifully on it, even my 88 year old. Yeadon is an interesting fellow and he makes many good points. But I do wish people like him would leave the “maybe there is no virus” out of their talks. Then, I could more comfortably share the important points he does make, with others. The Dr. Ryan Cole talk was a really good one. Thanks so much for finding all these excellent articles you post. You a truly appreciated.

Meryl Nass, M.D. said...

Re: Yeadon says they can't seem to find a virus--there is a powerful meme travelling across cyberspace, based on specious arguments that rely on a journalist asking the wrong FOIA question, and governments replying in such a way that it appears they have no virus. See:

I have discussed this in 3 prior blog posts and had an argument with Tom Cowan and Andrew Kaufman (both ignorant MDs) about their straw man argument (that boils down to viruses do not exist) this week. It left a bad taste in my mouth. How do you argue with people who share no basic science beliefs with you?

Here are the 3 blog posts, and the comments add to the discussion:

Nina McDonald said...

And then there is this:

Nina McDonald said...

This article also seems to suggest that these variants are more dangerous...if what Yeadon is saying is true--that ones immunes system could still recognize these variants and defeat them--then how does this article stack up against what Yeadon says?

"In addition to these specific changes, the B.1.351 and P.1 lineages also have approximately 20 additional unique mutations each. If both variants are indeed better than older viruses at escaping immunity, this could explain some of the second surge in Manaus, and it may leave previously infected individuals at risk of reinfection by these variants. Indeed, several case reports in Brazil have already documented such reinfections with variants containing the E484K mutation.

Are vaccines still effective against these variants?
Yes, but perhaps not quite as effective.

It only takes one variant replicating in the right person and in the right setting to take off and spread in the population.

In a pair of recent manuscripts, the developers of the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines examined whether antibodies from vaccinated individuals would neutralize (prevent from replicating) viruses containing mutated forms of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in cell culture. The antibodies functioned well against a virus carrying the B.1.1.7 mutations, but neutralization was reduced when the B.1.351 mutations were introduced. However, both companies expect the vaccines to work well even against this variant; the lower level of protective antibodies is still considered enough to prevent infection."

Meryl Nass, M.D. said...

We don't know for sure. The media are reporting that people who had covid are still susceptible to new variants. I think this would be a rare event but I can't say for certain.

After a year of fear porn, the variant issue seems like more of the same. But I might be wrong.

As I said before, it seems to me that the most productive way to manage this situation is to get yourself some medications or a friendly doc who will prescribe them if you get Covid, prepare fully with Vit D, zinc, etc., and then live your life without fear. Then one can be in a better position to evaluate the veracity of the various stories we are being presented. And determine how you want to respond.

I will not be injected with experimental and probably dangerous vaccines no matter how many venues or flights I have to miss. That is the hill I die on. If enough people felt the same way, that would be the end of these vaccine passports and mandates: the airlines and the venues need our dollars to survive. Government helicopter money isn't forever for them.