Wednesday, August 11, 2021

No herd immunity. Rampant transmission. Get the treatments that work, during the first few days of illness. Don't wait.

So, the claim today is that while the vaccines can't prevent spread (of delta--they are avoiding talking about other strains) it is claimed they still prevent serious disease.  That does not seem to be true in Israel, but perhaps for the first few months the vaccine prevents serious disease.  It is possible.

But of course what is well established is that the medications prevent serious disease, without any of the serious risks of the vaccine, and they don't stop working after 6 months.  Nor do they fail to work when a new variant comes along:  they have been effective against all variants.

Paul Marik and Pierre Koury, founders of FLCCC, say they are seeing young patients with very severe disease from Delta.  From Pierre's clarification, I believe these are UNTREATED and UNVACCINATED people, and their severe illness is not from the early respiratory virus disease, but rather from the late immune overactivation.

I fear the world is splitting into two camps:  those who have access to medication for early disease, and those who do not.  Regardless of what the elites, the President, Fauci, Walensky, SecDef, the various talking heads and influencers claim, they are going to demand medication when they get Covid, unless they are a lot dumber than I give them credit for.  Will you?

Covid news – live: Herd immunity rendered ‘mythical’ as serious cases among 16 and 17-year-olds ‘merited jabs’

Reaching herd immunity is “not a possibility” with the current Delta variant, according to the head of the Oxford Vaccine Group.

Professor Sir Andrew Pollard said that reaching herd immunity is “mythical” because the coronavirus vaccines don’t prevent transmission among vaccinated people.

“The Delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated,” he told MPs. “And that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated at some point will meet the virus.”

He added: “We don’t have anything that will [completely] stop that transmission.”

Meanwhile, a small number of serious cases among 16 to 17-year-olds has “merited” giving them “just a first dose,” of a vaccine.

Professor Adam Finn, who sits on the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, said the Government has been advised to administer first doses among the age group.

He said: “...We are seeing cases in hospital even into this age group...and so we are beginning to see a small number of serious cases.

“What we know for sure is that these vaccines are very effective at preventing those kind of serious cases from occurring.”...


Anonymous said...

Here's a new thing. FLCCC observing that the treatment protocols they were using in hospital (including ivermectin) aren't working in severe cases anymore (i.e. once it has progressed). Meanwhile, some people have reported that they took ivermectin for early treatment but found no effect until they switched to the veterinary version. The questions are: (1) are some imported generic brands lowering their quality (or bad manufacturers popping up) as demand has surged; (2) Should someone be checking the more recently produced pharma batches at a lab?
After all we've seen with the suppression of early treatment drugs, is intentional sabotage possible?

Anonymous said...

''The questions are: (1) are some imported generic brands lowering their quality (or bad manufacturers popping up) as demand has surged''

I've seen people online stating that they ordered their ivermectin from India.

Anonymous said...

Ann Barnhardt has a page on her site about taking the veterinary ivermectin:

..and people are writing to her reporting success:

Anonymous said...

I was able to weasel a prescription of Ivermectin 3mg #30 from my doctor, but he's squishy about the sig, opting for the lower dose on day 1 & 3. The recommendations have changed to higher doses for 5 days or resolution of symptoms, so I will need more pills, but not sure how to get it. The list of doctors on the FLCCC website are not vetted, and I live in California, so it's hard to find a local doctor that is not scared of losing their license. And I am an RN! Imagine how difficult it is for non-healthcare people to navigate this disaster with out the support of a PCP. I also read that some of these online doctors might be gouging patients.

Wish I live in Maine.

Anonymous said...

'Medical insanity, as described by an MD'!
Now the latest, the delta variant, is surging because of the unvaccinated. Ignore the data from other countries that have very high vaccine rates but high spiking cases, and 'ignore the data from other countries that have low vaccine rates and almost no COVID'. 'As a matter of fact, let's not even look at Sweden, which essentially didn't do lockdowns or masking, has a low vaccination rate, and has almost zero COVID'.

Anonymous said...

Fauci admits only 50-60% of CDC and NIH employees have been Vaccinated!

ellen said...

Anonymous - The first part of your statement (protocols not working in hospital anymore), may be because Delta is much stronger and overwhelms the body faster, but FLCCC says early treatment still works. The second point is extremely concerning .. Wouldn't be surprised if brands are lowering their quality, etc .. in this tragedy where lives are expendable .. *But is there more you can share to clarify this / links to people posting their experiences, etc? (Thanks!)

Anonymous said...

Ellen - here's a link to a twitter thread on it. I'm hoping that more doctors in the field will be curious about this and someone can get confirmed lab results from multiple sources and brands, but to really be heard, there would need to be a chain of custody for lab testing I guess. It's hard for the citizens and clinicians to deal with things like this with agencies like FDA essentially working against us.

Anonymous said...

Re: formulations of ivermectin for animal use. In the US (and in pretty much all developed countries), animal/veterinary medications are tightly regulated with regard to quality control, so any animal or veterinary product that is registered or licensed for use in the US is guaranteed to contain what is on the label. Not so for anything you've bought via the internet! So, to make sure you're getting ivermectin, in the concentration stated on the label and without any potentially harmful adulterants, buy a product that is licensed/registered for use in the US.

BTW, in the US ivermectin for animal use has long been available over-the-counter (OTC; i.e., no prescription required) so that producers can easily and economically use it in their parasite control programs. That may change at some point, but not without a lot of resistance from producers. The rationale for making it prescription-only (which is the situation in several European countries and has been for many years) has been discussed long before COVID-19 came along, because it's about slowing the inevitable development of anthelminthic resistance in economically important parasites in production animals, and to a lesser extent in 'companion' animals such as horses. Producers in the US will push back hard against any attempts to remove it from the OTC shelf, so I don't think you'll see ivermectin disappearing from Tractor Supply, etc., any time soon. (Raise all the political 'ructions and conspiracy theories you want; it's unlikely to happen in the US because y'all love your beef too much :-).

lynnbrad said...

why do you say this:? 'Now the latest, the delta variant, is surging because of the unvaccinated.'
how do you know this? i thought/surmised we have the delta because OF THE VACCINATED.
perhaps you mean that is what the docs are now saying? but it's not in quotes.
lynn b

am i silly to be avoiding close contact with the recently vaxxed?

i wonder what's up with the palestinians. first, we've for years had an essentially apartheid state of israel. now the govt there is making it so even amongst its own jewish citizens. crazy world, to say the least.

Anonymous said...

Fauci and the CDC, FDA, really looking out for you?
'The swab used to test for Covid is not only Made in China, but it's saturated with 'Ethylene Oxide' (EO), which is a carcinogen, damages DNA and fertility.'
UNBELIEVABLE!!! Or actually, totally believable!

Anonymous said...

April 21, 2021 New England Journal of Medicine reported "Vaccine Breakthrough Infections with SARS-CoV-2 Variants", saying: "Given the unusual clinical histories of these two patients, RNA obtained from the saliva samples was sequenced after reverse transcription and targeted PCR amplification of the SARS-CoV-2 S gene. This test revealed a number of differences between the sequences and the original sequence first identified in Wuhan, China, including several variants that have been suggested to be of potential clinical concern."

June 4 2021 Indian Journal of Medical Microbiology reported:

[[Altogether, these observations suggest two possible mechanisms responsible for breakthrough infections, lack of immune response elicited by the vaccine and a subsequent infection with the variant virus. Whether or not novel variants play a part in the risk of post-vaccination remains unclear, and so it is important in this current state to perform viral DNA sequencing from patients with breakthrough infections.]]

And [[With the apparent discrepant results of CoronaVac efficacy (50.7–83.5%) [1] and the emergence of novel viral variants [2], concern regarding the incidence of breakthrough infections is inevitable.]]

The 50.7% VE referred to China, reported April 13, 2021 at

[[“We will solve the problem that current vaccines don’t have very high protection rates,” said George Gao, director general of the Chinese CDC, on 11 April at a Chengdu conference on covid-19 vaccines. “It’s now under consideration whether we should use different vaccines from different technical lines for immunisation.”]]

CDC/VAERS reports 161 breakthroughs after covid shot, this year:
Mar., 2021 1
Apr., 2021 38
May, 2021 39
Jun., 2021 31
Jul., 2021 48
Unknown Date 4
Total 161

From 2007-2020, VAERS shows 142 after vax breakthroughs, for all shots, past 14 years combined.

VAERS data shows 22 deaths associated with breakthroughs post covid shot [and two others from 2019/2020, thus total=24].

Month Died and total death by month after covid shot
Feb., 2021 2
Mar., 2021 2
May, 2021 11
Jun., 2021 4
Unknown Date 3
Total 22
[Where is the July data? Maybe we'll know more tomorrow]

Only two other after vax breakthrough deaths reported, bringing grand total to 24; one of the others was rabies shot; other a flu shot.


Anonymous said...

Would not be a big surprise if WHO/CDC/NIH quietly advised labs to juice the CT Cycles in the PCR back up to 45+, with the justification that there are multiple "variants" and they need to be more "careful"....

Meryl Nass, M.D. said...

I think I did see a CDC document that recommended at CT of 45, dated June. No time to look for it now, perhaps for the discredited CDC PCR...but who in their right minds would run one at that level, especially given the reduced CTs noted for the Delta variant.

Anonymous said...

Misinformation Mutants: Reuters, checkerheads and the CT circus. The deadly and dangerous covid shots pushed by the criminal and dangerous WHO/CDC, on behalf of their elite lords and masters -- was preceded by the Cycle Threshold Values [CT] criminal operation.

While this CT criminal operation has been widely exposed by brave and courageous actual scientists, a brief look back is useful.

7 Feb 2021 Reuters, in service of this crime still in progress, posing as "fact checkers," in an essay titled: '''Fact check: WHO released guidance on proper use of tests; it did not admit PCR tests showed inflated infection numbers''', included the following:

[[PCR stands for Polymerase Chain Reaction, a process used to amplify DNA, and it is run a certain number of times to detect a virus. Mackay discusses the process in detail here , explaining that to detect an otherwise small amount of viral DNA, laboratory professionals run 40 to 50 cycles of PCR, which can vary by laboratory and testing kit.]]


[[Harvard Health explains on its website here that PCR tests are highly accurate, with most false-positive results thought to be due to errors in performing the test.]]

The Reuters in the above sentence refer to Harvard Health, with link to URL.

This is from the Harvard Health information, of which Reuters linked to -- with their "PCR tests are highly accurate" -- nonsense.

From the Harvard Health information: [[ at ]]

[[The true accuracy of tests for COVID-19 is uncertain

Unfortunately, it’s not clear exactly how accurate any of these tests are. There are several reasons for this:

We don’t have precise measures of accuracy for these tests — just some commonly quoted figures for false negatives or false positives, such as those reported above. False negative tests provide false reassurance, and could lead to delayed treatment and relaxed restrictions despite being contagious. False positives, which are much less likely, can cause unwarranted anxiety and require people to quarantine unnecessarily.
How carefully a specimen is collected and stored may affect accuracy.
Because these tests are available by EUA, the usual rigorous testing and vetting has not yet happened, and accuracy results have not been widely published.
A large and growing number of laboratories and companies offer these tests, so accuracy may vary.
All of these tests are new because the virus is new. Without a long track record, assessments of accuracy can only be approximate.
We don’t have a definitive "gold standard" test with which to compare them.]]


Anonymous said...

This ALSO is going to go into my "best of Dr. Meryl Nass" folder.
and it needs a special prominent place on the MerylNassMD website.